Enjoyment Podcast featuring Crissi Cochrane
Crissi Cochrane
Last month, I had the pleasure of being the guest on Enjoyment, a podcast hosted by therapist Josh Stern, exploring the different ways and areas enjoyment shows up in our lives. Joy is a powerful energy, and in embarking on the creation of his show, he was curious what kinds of conversations could come from examining it.
And, my goodness - the conversation we had - I was comfortable, and so I was honest and frank, and shared some things I’ve never talked about before. The road to my joy has been a bumpy one, and naturally, we revisited the dark days that led to where I am now. I walked away from this recording feeling like I was walking away from my first session of therapy - I felt grounded, like I’d gotten to the very core of my purpose, and came back to my life with a better sense of who I am and what I want.
I talked about the joy in writing songs, the satisfaction in getting out everything that needs to be said. I talked about the spiritual magic that exists in the moment of creating something you love. And the wonderful mystery of not knowing what the end destination of each song will be.
I talked about writing songs on conflict - using songwriting to dissect troubles and find the spaces where my stories need closure, and using music as a safe space to explore trauma. I talked about how self-deprecation was ubiquitous in the music I absorbed as a teen, and became a big part of my mindset in writing songs for many years, even evident in the way I titled my works (“Pretty Alright”; “Little Sway”).
I talked about how hard it was to change my genre - learning to perform more challenging music and look more sophisticated, and struggling with feeling inferior at both. I had completely forgot, until this conversation, about all those years when I could never answer the phone because I was high all the time - how guilty I felt about my lifestyle, and how that ate away at me. I talked about how Pretty Words was born out of that time - not being able to take a compliment, being so down on myself that I couldn’t hear the words “I love you” without feeling I was being lied to.
And we discussed so, so much more! I’ll quit telling you about it and let you go and listen. It’s a 45 minute episode. I’ve been listening to it in little pieces when I get a few moments throughout the day. I’m really pleased with how it turned out, and so honoured that Josh asked me to be on the show.